My dear readers, have you heard Bruno Mars and Lady Gaga's new duet? It seemed to relate to General Hospital Friday, since someone is probably going to die in Port Charles next week.
Will it be Ava? Oh, I hope not. I love Maura West to the moon and back, and I want her to find a way to wriggle out of this jam, as she has a million others. But it worries me. The more the writers back her into a corner, the less chance she has to escape her fate. Ava no longer has Julian to come to her rescue, Scott is missing in action, Nina is over her, and Ava's one true friend, Trina, is fiercely loyal but has no power to stop Jagger and Sonny's testosterone-fueled grudge match with Ava caught in the middle.
I adore Adam Harrington. When he first arrived in Port Charles, I thought he was promising as a new and improved Jagger Cates. He had chemistry with everyone, and there was a plethora of possibilities for storylines and love matches. Still, he accidentally got sucked into the "enemies of Sonny" vortex from which there is no escape.
If I were Ava, I would have trusted Sonny over Jagger. She is still Avery's mother, and if Sonny had thought Jagger was blackmailing her, he might have forgiven her. But she rolled the dice, and I fear Sonny is right. It would be easier for Jagger to kill Ava than risk having her blow up his case by admitting he forced a false account from her.
Ava gave her false statement to the PCPD while Jagger looked over her shoulder and answered some questions to keep her on track. Anna was suspicious because Ava's new story did not match up with her original statement. Anna thought it was strange that Ava had not told anybody the first time Kristina had threatened her.
Jagger doesn't know Ava has already confided in Nina and Trina. Both women know that Ava was not a willing participant in Jagger's scheme, and they both know that Kristina didn't go to Ava's place to murder her. Ava told them it was all just a big accident.
It's absurd. Tiny pregnant Kristina sent out as a hitman? C'mon. If Sonny wanted Ava dead, he would have sent Jason. Jagger isn't thinking clearly, or he would know that no jury would believe that Sonny would send his pregnant daughter in as an enforcer.
I know I am probably going to anger a lot of people right now, but I am going to express an unpopular opinion. I'm #TeamKristina. Yeah, I know she agreed to be her sister's surrogate, but you know what? I hate Molly right now. Molly has been unnecessarily cruel. When she was at the baby's grave, screaming at Kristina, who had just gotten out of the hospital after a miscarriage, and tormented her until Kristina collapsed—I found myself lacking sympathy for her. Grief doesn't make you a mean girl; being a mean girl makes you a mean girl.
But even though I am taking sides on the characters, I have to give love to the actual human beings playing these distraught sisters. Both Kate Mansi and Kristen Vaganos have turned in gut-wrenching performances in their portrayals of two grief-stricken, heartbroken mothers.
Last night, I heard DL Hughley say something that really stuck in my soul. "Your apology has to be as loud as your accusation." And so now, I humbly and publicly apologize for being a whiny little b*tch about the recasts of Molly and Kristina.
I don't work for ABC. I have no idea who made the decisions or why, and I don't think I ever gave either of these fantastic actresses a fair shake, just because I was frustrated with the recast situation. And so, should you be reading this column, I apologize for being mad that you weren't someone else. You are magnificent in your own right. I see that now, and I hope you will forgive me if you even know I exist. You are both doing magnificent work and have brought me to tears this week.
Now, a general question… Why does General Hospital kill so many babies? This is not the first baby Molly and T.J. lost this year. Willow was at the cemetery, grieving Jonah. I will never forget dead Christmas baby Liam and the way Sasha and Brando wept over his loss. It gets to be too much sometimes.
I have a sneaking suspicion that the first surrogate who supposedly lost T.J. and Molly's baby lied. Maybe she actually had the baby, and they will find out someday. It's too cruel for them to lose two babies in one year.
Kristina has had a terrible week. She fell through a window into a pool, lost the baby she was carrying, got arrested, had to bury her baby, and now has to endure her sister's vicious attacks? It's too much. No one person could endure a week like that. If I were her, I'd be Door-Dashing bourbon to my house by the gallon.
Both Molly and Kristina made some errors along the way, but Molly has been a bit of a bully to Kristina recently. Like the day Molly shoved her papers in Kristina's face, demanding she sign them on the spot without allowing her to read them or have a lawyer look them over. Kristina genuinely believed she was doing the right thing in the interview to not reveal T.J. and Molly's personal business, but it backfired on her.
I would not have signed those documents under those conditions, either. It seems like the GH writers are gearing up to have a custody fight or breach of contract over a dead baby. If they do, I swear I will fast-forward through every scene. Nope. Not interested. It was going to be bad enough to have them fighting over the actual baby, but now that they buried the baby, I cannot imagine a lawsuit making sense in that situation.
I love my Davis girls, and I want them all reunited and best friends again by Thanksgiving. I am not sure where Kelly Monaco was this week, but Lindsay Hartley has filled in as Sam short-term a few times, and I always enjoy her work. I hope everything is okay with Kelly.
The extended Ashford family surrounded T.J. and Molly with love and support, and they were so touched when they named the baby Irene after T.J.'s grandma. I especially loved the sweet scenes with Aunt Stella and Marshall discussing having two Irenes in heaven, praying over them and sending them blessings.
However, Kristina wanted to name the baby Adela after Sonny's mom. I bet she will never accidentally say that name out loud again. Adela is actually Molly's grandma's name, too, as Adela was the mother to both Ric and Sonny, so why was that name so horrible to Molly? I cannot say.
I am very happy to see Ric. I only hope he gets something to do other than try a ludicrous lawsuit. Sonny has been surprisingly restrained this week regarding Jagger's harassment of Kristina, but if Ric gets involved, I don't think Sonny has enough meds in his system to suppress his ugly feelings for his brother.
Another happy surprise this week was the appearance of Parry Shen, our favorite shady lab tech. Bring Ryan Carnes back, and let Lucas and Brad have a second chance. I loved them together. I enjoyed the scenes with Brad pleading his case to Terry. It was nice to hear someone mention Britt, too. Now that Jason and Brad are back, why not have Britt come back from the dead and say Dr. Obrecht found a miracle cure and had her in a cryogenic chamber all this time. Why not? There are many formerly dead people walking around Port Charles.
But the return I am most over the moon about is Jonathan Jackson as Lucky Spencer. When they took that hood off his head, and I saw that beautiful face, I nearly wept. Where is he, and who is holding him hostage? We better find out soon because Lulu may need a liver transplant, and her brother Lucky may well be the best donor for her.
When Dante said sadly that Lulu had moved on and he knew she wasn't laying in her bed, pining for him, we knew that was wrong. Lulu was on her way to tell Dante she wanted him back and loved him when she was injured in the explosion at the Floating Rib. We know that the as-of-yet faceless Lulu will not be Emme Rylan, as she announced on social media that GH was recasting the role. I would dearly love to see Julie Marie Barman return to the role; she was absolutely fire, and I was sad when she left. However, I have heard no rumors that would make me think that is possible. I hope whoever GH casts has sizzling chemistry with Dominic Zamprogna. I want that old Lante sizzle.
I think that's the saddest thing about GH right now; there is very little romance. Back in the old days, ABC's tagline was "Love in the Afternoon," but that hasn't been true for quite a while. Chase and Brooklyn are in love, but we rarely see their romance. Willow is daydreaming about Drew and not her husband. Carly has flirted with Brennan but nothing more. Anna and Valentin were hot and heavy, but then he fled town. Sam and Dante mostly talk about their kids, not much sexy time there, either. Liz hasn't had any romance since Finn left town; Kevin and Laura mostly talk about Heather and Ace. Tracy almost had a love interest, but then Gregory died. Cody and Sasha had one roll in the hay (literally) in the stables. But I am jonesing for some romance, and Lucky and Lulu coming back to town might get us there (not with each other, to be clear!).
I am rooting for a Liz and Lucky reunion and a Lulu and Dante reunion. I want all the flashbacks. I would also like to see Ric and Alexis connect again, but if their daughters are mortal enemies, I can't imagine that happening.
I loved the scene today with Laura and Liz when Laura said she knew everyone wanted her to give up on Lulu and let her go, but she knows that Lulu is a fighter and would want the chance to live and come back to her family. I started watching GH because of Genie Francis when I was a teenager, and she can still get to me like no one else.
When Jason informed Anna that Valentin had switched Sonny's meds, she looked disappointed. She always wants to see the best in him, but lately, there have been more bad choices than good ones. Anna swears she will prosecute Valentin but wants to find him first for Charlotte's sake. Jason makes no promises and tells Anna he has to tell Sonny.
And he did. When Jason told Sonny that it was Valentin who had changed his pills, Sonny said they needed to use Anna for bait to draw him back home. Sonny believes that Valentin cares enough for Anna that if she were in danger, he would come back to Port Charles.
Lois' real enemy is self-doubt after multiple mean girls criticize her accent. At the end of Friday's show, it seemed as if we were heading for a My Fair Lady accent makeover. I hope not. I like Lois' accent, nails, character, and very un-demure fashion sense. I love Rena Sofer; she is so welcome on my TV anytime. I don't want Lois to lose the things that make her sparkle and unique. Here's some advice from your old Aunt Tammy. Never try to fit in. Aim to stand out. Be the most spectacular you that you can possibly be. One of a kind.
Ava is one of a kind, for sure. Jagger told Ava she had to re-record her statement and say precisely what he wanted her to say, exactly how he wanted her to say it. Ava is beginning to realize that throwing in with him was a big mistake. Here's the thing, Ava already told Nina that it was an accident, so if she goes on record saying that Kristina was the aggressor, Nina will know she was lying. Sonny might let her see his dimples again if Nina spoke up to save Kristina.
Ava and Nina had a lovely scene this week. They danced around the edges of friendship again. My BFF and I have had some doozies of fights in our 40 years of friendship, and we always eventually make up, so maybe these two crazy gals can restore their sisterhood someday. I miss them having each other to talk to. It's a lonely world without a friend to confide in. That is assuming Jagger doesn't kill Ava and frame Sonny for it.
What will happen tomorrow, dear readers? Will Violet and Tracy get matching riding crops in every color? When Finn gets out of rehab, will Violet even want to go back home? Will Cyrus come to GH to visit more people as the chaplain, or will Portia have him on a most-wanted poster in the lobby? Will Cowboy James and Uncle Cowboy Cody keep up with their riding lessons when school is back in session, or will Cody just be canoodling with Chef Sasha in the barn all day? Will Maxie be more open to Natalia's opinions, since she calls Maxie "the beating heart of Deception"? Will Tracy and Lois bond after all these years, and will Tracy convince Ned to dump the invisible Olivia and go back to his first love?
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WideAwake
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Testing new phone
Ruthie
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Weird. A post I just made was taken down to be reviewed. In it, I noted that you can now buy deception products for real. I read it on the Soap Opera Digest site. Why is that controversial?
Jane
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Old broad learning new tricks!
perhaps the mention of another site? It would be nice to know the reason certain posts are marked as spam BEFORE the post disappears forever.
What the actual heck, GH?
You keep Eva La Rue as Natalia, but now Kelly Monaco is out as Sam? You had a perfectly good Lulu willing to come back but you go with someone new? You ousted Michael Easton and we have to have a new Finn? Is it a money issue? Needed all the cash for Jonathon Jackson? (GLAD to have him back!) Adam Huss' return can't be costing you that much, right?
Yay, GH!
Excited to have Jonathon Jackson back, as well as Adam Huss' Nikolas - hope he's not coming back for Ava's funeral but rather for Lulu's awakening.
FleurdeLisa
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@MelindaBunnyYeah, I can't believe about KM. And from what I understand, more "shockers" are coming. Well-written stories and characters are what make me want to tune in, not cheap "shock value" stunts. Sadly, I'm just about done. if it weren't for Laura Wright I wouldn't be watching, and I don't know if that's enough anymore.
Kathie
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@MelindaBunnyI doubt Nikolas is back for anything longer than a brief appearance. They seem to be using him as an occasional recurring character. I'd also be surprised to see a recast Finn. I think that was as much an issue with the character being expendable as saving money on the actor. And, sorry, unless Julie Berman wanted to come back, I'd much prefer a recast Lulu
I don't like the Kelly Monaco news either, but I'll wait to see how it plays out before I really complain.
FleurdeLisa
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I usually do take a "wait and see" approach, but being that there is so much to dislike now and how much I'm already ff or tuning out, I don't see much reason to keep watching, especially if it's true that KM is the first of many characters who are getting the ax - including other vets/legacy characters.
FleurdeLisa
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REphrasing because I know KM is the actor - Sam is the first of many characters....
Kathie
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Well the show is bringing back legacy characters--Lucky, Lulu (even if a recast), Ric, you can probably add Jason since that was also this year. But I have to admit that I've felt GH has been overstaffed for years. The show is doing a better job of pacing recently, but there have been a lot of slow storylines because they're only on once a week, characters ignored or characters whose actions would make more sense if the show took more time to explain them. There's been periodic thinning--always is, and for the most part, I'm not sure it's been problematic. Harsh and I would hate to be the person deciding who is out of a job, but there it is.
Some of it comes down to how you write someone out, however. Which I don't want to get to into for the KM situation in case other posters may want to be spoiler free (though it's just a rumor at this point). I'm way too lazy to try to figure out how to do that thing where you can cover the spoiler so that only people who click on it can see it. If you're on a website like this, I doubt you can avoid the bullet headlines that an actor is leaving, but you don't have to read the article.
littlehollywoodmt
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I wonder if some of those legacy characters are those like Monica and Robert. As much as I love and have loved them, I think their time on the show has come to an end. Monica really isn't on the show any more other than times they pull her name out of a closet so "writing her off" could be powerful but also wouldn't really change things.
FleurdeLisa
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My point is that I've been "waiting and seeing" for quite some time now. Even I have my limits.
JBJ
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JBJ
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Kate Mansi's performance certainly triggered my sympathies that Kristina's feelings of loss are deep and real to her. However, I cannot give her a pass on her behavior throughout this entire ordeal. There is a pathology called Vulnerable Narcissism from which I believe she suffers, probably inherited in part from her father. Had I been TJ or Molly, that alone would have given me pause before ever choosing her as an egg donor. The thing about Vulnerable Narcissists is that they make you sympathetic enough to them that you begin to ignore your best judgment in favor of whatever narrative they spin. TJ & Molly's grief has been magnified into rage because Kristina has spent the last 9 months gaslighting them.
Kristina swore up and down that she could give the baby up when literally everyone else questioned it and asked her to think it through. She knew good and well that no matter what, TJ would still be the child's biological father. She stirred up conflict between the most stable couple in PC, because she wanted to find justification for going back on her promise. She generated conflict between her mother and sister by asking her mother to draw up legal papers that intended to not only cut Molly out of the baby's life, but it's biological father. And, she didn't even have enough guilty conscience to destroy the paperwork after her miscarriage. Every step of the way, Kristina has acted to serve her own ego while gaslighting the people closest to her into believing that she is acting selflessly. The idea that TJ & Molly would actually worry about losing a custody battle to Kristina highlights the extent of this gaslighting. Whatever favorablility bio-mom's get in court would be easily countered by bio-dad TJ & Molly's stable relationship, stable careers (not buoyed by a criminal parent) and a diverse support system (which is especially important when raising a mixed-race child). The best possible outcome she could have achieved was shared custody with visitation (like Ava), not even primary custody. So, the idea that she would chose a scenario where her child is raised between two conflicted households rather than take her place as a much-beloved aunt hardly reflects well on her maternal instincts.
DaffySez
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When Kristina agreed to be the surrogate, I believe she had every intention of carrying the baby for Molly and TJ and then becoming a doting aunt. Unfortunately, she was not mentally or emotionally prepared for how the pregnancy would bond her with the baby and how intense her feelings would be with the hormonal changes. Even women who have had children before are given psychological testing and and are prepared for bonding with the baby and still giving it up when they agree to surrogacy, but Kristina got none of that.
Krissy did not ask Alexis to draw up custody papers; Kristina went online and drew them up herself but Alexis managed to talk her out of rushing to the court and filing them and Kristina left them on Alexis' couch. They should have been shredded but Alexis put them in her briefcase so Molly wouldn't accidentally see them. I feel bad for everybody involved but especially Alexis, who saw this coming from the get-go because she knew Kristina would fall in love with the baby and not want to give it up, but nobody would listen to her. Both Kristina and Molly told her to butt out and mind her own business, so Alexis has just had to stand on the sidelines and watch her family get blown to smithereens. She kept reminding Kristina about her commitment to Molly and TJ but it fell on deaf ears. I've seen several posts criticizing Alexis for not taking a stronger stand with Kristina but that would have been useless because Kristina would never have listened to her anyway.
Kristina has been babied by Alexis ever since she had leukemia and needed Sam's dead baby's cord blood for a transplant. Molly wasn't coddled like Kristina and grew up strong and independent. Kristina always needs daddy and mommy (or a mommy substitute - her professor) to take care of her. Avery is more independent than Kristina.
JBJ
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Thanks to Dex and Ric (who knew?) I realized just how triggering Krissy's behavior has been for me. I've been the Molly in a few relationships in my life, and really wish that I had a Ric to do what he did, though I've had a Dex. I am genuinely relieved that Alexis seems to have heard what Ric was saying.
I am completely serious about Kristina's pathology...she doesn't have to be conscious of what she is doing to create deep harm and intimate betrayal. There have been patterns of it since she was a teen, but I strongly suspect the writers intended for her to go in this direction when she was recast with Kate Mansi.
JBJ
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I totally agree that Kristina probably wouldn't have taken Alexis's advice, but as the mother of both women and as a lawyer, Alexis should have played the Devil's Advocate with her to make Kristina aware of the consequences of her actions, rather than coddle her before shoving her own head in the sand. By hoping that a lawsuit would never come to fruition, she was ultimately failing both of her daughters. Had Irene survived and Kristina demanded custody, despite general favorablility towards biological mothers, she would have had to challenge the child's biological father, not her sister. Every single one of Kristina's poor life choices and familial attachments would have been held up against his and put on official record, because Molly would have no reason to protect her.
Jane
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Old broad learning new tricks!
Alexis should have tried harder to get through to Kristina, and she should have told her she would have nothing to do with that petition Kristina got online. She definitely should have shredded the papers once they were no longer needed, not put them in her brief case, or whatever she did, so that Molly could find them. Then, Alexis should have stood up for Molly at the funeral when Molly waved them around during her confrontation with Kristina and explained that Krissy did that on her own. Alexis telling Molly on yesterday's episode (Tues 8/27) that she had to stand by Krissy because she was so needy, or whatever her excuse was, was not very "motherly" of her regarding her other daughter, was it?
LkyLdy.
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Is there a way now to know that you have a reply without going through 170 comments to find your own original comment? There used to be such when you signed on.
FleurdeLisa
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I loved Britt and KT, but I don't want yet another cryogenic back from the dead miracle cure return. Besides, Dr O might find a cure for the poison, but there is no cure irl for Huntington's and, I'm sorry, that would be just as wrong as if they had cured Robin of HIV 30 years ago. When you give a character a rw disease, there needs to be a real-world outcome. Fantasy should not come into play here.
I am on Team Kristina as well, which comes as no bigger shock to anyone than me. Kristina went into this with the best of loving intentions - and even when she lost the baby, she wanted to be the one to tell Molly that she lost "our" baby. There was a part of her that still thought of Baby Irene as her niece as well as her daughter. I've actually seen posts that Kristina was trying to con Molly and TJ out of money, or to get a baby out of it. That was never part of the storyline and that is what is called fan fiction. If someone wants to hate character, fine, but at least let it be for a reason that's actually in the show, good grief.
the fact that Molly would give any creedence at all to Ava's accusations is ridiculous - especially after Ava was the one who outed Krissy and Allison and caused Krissy to be canceled, losing her foundation. Ava has clearly been targeting Krissy to get back at Sonny. Molly and TJ both are just plain dumb to believe anything Ava says.
So and So
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To the IT Team: I am sure there are folks who would appreciate the ability to block users.
FleurdeLisa
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Yes indeed.
It was nice to see Terry make an appearance, but I must've missed out on the public demand and all the fan petitions to bring back Brad. I don't recall Britt's former minion ever being particularly popular, or even well liked! As he explained to Terry, his typical function on the show was to use his position to facilitate the "evil plans" of other characters, Britt, Nelle, Liesl, Madame Wu, etc, but he was never more than a flunky, or in the case of the "Wicked Witch of the Westbourne," a flying monkey!
And it seems we're NOT talking about bringing back BOTH Brad and Lucas, whose name was never mentioned in Brad and Terry's conversation, and who hasn't been seen or heard from since Bobbie's death. I'm not sure if he even works at GH anymore. The timing seems a bit suspicious since TPTB just wrote off Alison, and then, in a matter of days, bring back another gay character. Do you think they have a quota, or something?
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Is Tristan Rogers okay? Why is Robert letting Jordan do his dirty work, reining in his Assistant DA, instead of dealing with her, himself? That doesn't sound like him. His absence is also conspicuous in the Mac-is-Cody's-father storyline, since that means he is also Cody's uncle. Has anybody bothered to call Robert to let him know about the newest addition to the family? Who's going to tell Robin about her new cousin? Certainly not Anna! She's way too busy coming up with excuses to save Valentin from Jason, Sonny and the FBI who want to make him pay for his crimes. If Jason really wants to find Valentin, all he needs to do is follow Anna, and "eventually," she'll lead Jason right to him.
Of course Anna claims she only wants to find Charlotte for Laura and Lulu, which has nothing to do with the fact that she would also like to find her boyfriend for another booty call. It's probably a stupid question, but has anybody bothered to check Charlotte's social media accounts for clues about where in the World she might be? Jason should definitely check with his son, Jake, and explain the situation about Lulu, so that if he DOES know how to contact Charlotte, he can tell her she needs to get in touch with her grandmother, Laura, and make arrangements to come home, ASAP.
Of course if she does, Jagger will probably arrest her too, and toss her in a cell with Kristina!
Lina
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@Scrimmagewow, that quota comment was quite something. I'm hoping it was not intended the way it appears!
Sheila
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assume much??!!
It wasn't a serious question. It was more of a tongue-in-cheek comment on the baffling reason why TPTB brought Brad back, and the timing of his return.
FleurdeLisa
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@Scrimmage"The timing seems a bit suspicious since TPTB just wrote off Alison, and then, in a matter of days, bring back another gay character. Do you think they have a quota, or something?" Oh, wow. We have two LGBTQI characters on the canvas and neither are shown in a same sex relationship. And you're complaining about "quotas"?
Yeah, I wish there was a way to block posters.
@ScrimmageLucas moved away after Brad went to prison for switching the babies and they divorced. He doesn't work at GH.
Why does Finola Hughes choose to cry every time her character, Anna is called out on her blatant hypocrisy, or whenever she's begging Jason for the life of her boyfriend, Valentin? It's just so out of character for Anna, who is SUPPOSED to be a seasoned, highly trained intelligence operative, to have such little control over her emotions. Do you think she turns on the waterworks intentionally, because she knows that deep down, Jason is a sucker for that sort of manipulation? I'd have more respect for her if I thought that was the case, but I haven't seen any indication that Anna is playing Jason that way.
Even so, Anna's appeal to Jason to distance himself from Sonny once and for all, and to choose to make a better life for himself that he could be proud of seemed significant, somehow. Jason will never actually join the PCPD, but I CAN imagine him doing some "consulting" for them. If Jason ever actually became a free agent, I'll bet Jack Brennan would make him an attractive offer to help him run the WSB's new Port Charles office.
That could be fun! At the very least, it would be better than cleaning up Sonny's never-ending messes, counting coffee beans, or parking cars at Luke's Blues Club. For a guy his age, with his experience, Jason has an amazingly sparse resume.
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Speaking of job skills...
Alexis' lawyer skills are still pretty rusty. If she was on her game, she would've remembered that, whenever it's decided that a document should NEVER see the light of day, or be spoken about ever again, a lawyer's best friend is their handy-dandy shredder, which should never be more than a few feet away at all times. If she had, Molly would've never found the petition for sole custody that Krissy intended to file if Baby Irene had lived.
It seems like the returning Head Writer is determined to drive a wedge between Kristina and Molly no matter what! I don't know why. I prefer stories of families who are loyal to each other, instead of engaging in blood feuds. That's what the Quartermaines are for!
Now that she knows what her sister was planning, Molly is almost certain to drop the charges against Ava, and to blame Krissy for instigating the confrontation that ultimately led to Irene's death. (Molly was right! It IS easier to talk about the baby, now that she's got a name.) Whether she'll stand by and let Jagger railroad Krissy into an attempted murder charge is another question, entirely!
If this doesn't make Alexis start drinking again, nothing EVER will! I KNEW she was never REALLY an alcoholic!
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Is somebody messing with Jagger’s medicine? All of a sudden, he’s COMPLETELY unhinged, blowing up at a Judge in open court, and then acting like Ava is his slave, whose freedom is TOTALLY dependent on him, and him, alone! (Where the hell IS Scotty, anyway?) Meanwhile, Sonny’s meds have kicked in, and he’s back to as close as he ever gets to “normal,” Alexis just won her first case after being reinstated, and Molly is off the hook, at least, for now!
As far as the war between Sonny and Jagger goes, the shoe is now firmly on the other foot! Things couldn’t have gone worse for Jagger in court if he had soiled himself in front of that no-nonsense Judge, who I REALLY liked! Did you see her arched eyebrow reaction when she heard that Kristina was arrested WHILE she was being released from the hospital after losing her baby during an emergency C-section? Jagger’s goose was cooked right there, unless he had a VERY compelling reason for the timing of her arrest.
I’m surprised the US Attorney even agreed to proceed, knowing that there was no physical evidence, or documentation to support an allegation of attempted murder. I thought he had already contacted Jagger’s superiors at the FBI, to complain about his excessive, and likely illegal behavior. Now he should tell them they’ve got a Rogue Agent on their hands, and if things keep going against him, there’s no telling WHAT he might do!
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A SMILEY CYRUS sighting!
I thought it was funny when Laura said “I haven’t seen you for MONTHS!” and Smiley replied “Well, I haven’t seen YOU, either!” I think we can all blame the previous writing staff for that glaring omission, and move on, now that it’s been rectified. Now if they would only bring Marty back! Laura keeps looking at her brother sideways, because she can’t help but suspect that he’s not being sincere, and has some “secret agenda.” If that were true, it must be something BIG to justify him spending three days a week ministering to the patients in a long-term care facility out of town.
I’m taking Smiley at his word, until he proves me wrong. Meanwhile, I hope the first person Lulu asks to see when she wakes up is her “Uncle Smiley!”
How long has Lulu been in a coma?
Laura: “It’s called a NAP, Susan Lucci!”
I don’t think Laura was even the Mayor when Lulu was last awake. She’s going to have a LOT to catch up on. “Daddy’s DEAD??!!” “Where’s Nikolas?” “Who is this ‘Ace’ kid, and why is he living with you?” “Dante’s living with WHO??!!” “Anna shot Charlotte?” “Who’s Rocco?”
Jane
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Old broad learning new tricks!
@ScrimmageI enjoyed that exchange between Cyrus and Laura that you quoted. It was a pleasant distraction. Based on the side-eye Laura was giving him, I think Laura is as suspicious of his presence at Lulu's bedside, after causing her coma in the first place, as I am.
Also, I'm ready for Marty to come back and join the family clan!
P.S. Thanks for the Susan Lucci reference! It is a classic and always makes me smile.
:: I Am Diagonally Parked In A Parallel Universe ::
@ScrimmageYou're forgetting Lulu waking up, discovering all these losses, and saying to Laura, "Well, at least I still have The Haunted Star!"
Laura: "Um, Honey, about that...."
:: I Am Diagonally Parked In A Parallel Universe ::
@JaneI thought Julian planted the bomb at The Floating Rib?
Was Smiley even involved? I forget.
Jane
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Old broad learning new tricks!
@MissezPremiseDidn't Cyrus order Julien to plant the bomb? That's how I remember it anyway.
@MissezPremiseCyrus made Julian plant the bomb backpack at the Floating Rib to try to kill Jason - Julian didn't realize Danny was there with Jason so he would have been killing his own grandson had the plan gone off perfectly (it did not)
Kathie
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@JaneYes, Cyrus owned Julian after he had Ryan shanked in Pentonville to prevent him from telling Sonny about Julian's role in the Wiley/Jonah baby switch storyline. Lost cause since Julian ended up dying anyway.
Incidentally, Cyrus also told Julian the bomb would go off after the Floating Rib was closed so Julian did not know people would be there. I cannot remember if he know Cyrus was trying to kill Jason. It seems extremely stupid to think Cyrus would try to kill someone in an empty restaurant so I don't know why Julian believed that lie.
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@JaneThanks!
I actually used that scenario a few months back, and got the same reaction!
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@MelindaBunnySee that?
They have such a tendency to rewrite history on this show, it's hard to keep up!!
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@JaneI was typing a response here and it suddenly disappeared... what I was saying was, an italicized comment appeared here under your comment saying "This comment has been reported as SPAM...." has anyone else seen that? Then it disappeared! Weird, And I don't even see a way to report comments if it was necessary! IT Folks? Any input here?
Jane
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Old broad learning new tricks!
@MissezPremiseI had this happen to me too. I'm not sure what is triggering the spam bot, since the comment disappears.
For those of you who are unfamiliar with Ric's backstory, he and his father, smarmy lawyer, Trevor, blamed young Sonny for pushing their mother, Adela down a flight of stairs when he learned she was pregnant with Ric, the child of her married boss. Whether or not that's what really happened is anybody's guess. After Ric was born, Trevor - who thought Sonny was damaged goods - demanded that Adela choose between her sons, and she chose Sonny, because she thought he needed her more. Trevor took his son, and left, and Ric never saw his mother again, something else he blames on Sonny, to this day!
Adela went back to Bensonhurst, where she eventually married Deke, an abusive cop, who beat her AND Sonny on a regular basis with impunity, because of his badge.
I think the perceived difference between Ric and Sonny by the rest of the characters on the show, is that they all know Sonny is a Mobster, a criminal, and a thug prone to violent outbursts, but they see Ric as equally crooked, but more perverse. The things Ric is infamous for have an extremely high "Ick Factor." Ric obviously has unresolved "mommy issues" based on his history of abusive relationships with women. Here are some of Ric's Greatest Hits...
Lied about raping Carly (he didn't); Murdered his lover, Faith Roscoe; Tried to blackmail Courtney into marrying him; Drugged Elizabeth, and had sex with her; Locked a pregnant Carly in a secret Panic Room to give his wife, Elizabeth a replacement for their miscarried child; Paid off a doctor to tell Elizabeth she was infertile, and secretly dosed her with birth control pills, which gave her an embolism;
Slept with, and then raped Sonny's wife, Claudia; Had sex with Sam, while his wife, Alexis was recovering from lung cancer; Hired Hayden to play the Fake Mrs Jake to break up Elizabeth and Jake Doe; Married Nina for her money, while having an affair with her mother, Madeline.
Let's face it; Ric is one sick puppy!
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I'm sure Ric was proud of the way his little girl stood up for herself! He seems to be picking up right where he left off, trading barbs with Alexis. He's really working that Silver Fox look! I'm surprised Anti-Stella didn't react like this when she saw him...
Anti-Stella: "DAYUM! ...forgive me, Lawd... but WHO is THAT?? WHAT??!! That's Molly's FATHER?? My, my, MY! Now that is one handsome man! Remind me to welcome him to the family!"
Jordan: "Stay in your lane, old woman! I saw him FIRST!"
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This feud storyline between Jagger and Sonny has REALLY deteriorated since Krissy went Crash-Boom-SPLASH! I've seen more suspense, and better acting in a Punch and Judy Puppet Show! It would probably help if I gave a damn about any of the characters involved, but the truth is, I think everybody else (and the show, itself) would be better off in the long run if Sonny, Ava, and Jagger all took a long walk off of a short pier, and were never heard from again!
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Maxi's bedside monologue with Lulu gave new meaning to the phrase, "Talk to the Hand!"
Aside from showing us that Maxie keeps looking better and better than she has in years, I didn't get the point of the latest appearance of the Deception gang on the shopping network, especially all that stuff about Lois' Brooklyn accent. This CAN'T be the first time Lois has heard something like this. Heck, Tracy's digs, alone, should've toughened up Lois' response to that kind of "accent shaming," which is really a form of regional bias.
Are we now going to see Lois adopt a more standard form of expression, and that from now on, Rena Sofer will be portraying Lois with something closer to her natural speaking voice? That would be an unusual turn of events, but when Lois breaks a nail, it's GOT to be a sign that big changes are coming!
And what was the deal with that woman, Pearl, who followed Lois on the show? I had a visceral reaction to her alien looking face, like "WTH is THAT???!!!!" I think women who wind up looking like that must be making decisions about cosmetic surgery based on how they'll look in still photographs, not considering how they'll look in person, in real life, where their faces don't function normally. Someone said she looked like an "AI" character. I don't know about intelligent, but she definitely looked artificial.
And don't even get me started on "Vegan Handbags!"
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It's nice to see SubstituteSam, Lindsay Hartley. She's super HAWT in a different way than Kelly Monaco, but she fits right in. Dante's lucky he gets paid to make out with both of them! Yummy! Nice work if you can get it! Apparently, they told SubSam to glare at Ric, but I wonder if they told her WHY?
littlehollywoodmt
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@ScrimmageI think the home and hearth garbage was setting it up for Lois to take a back seat and set Natalia up as the new face of deception. She's all but a new character so of course they have to put her in EVERY possible storyline. So not only is she going to somehow be the CFO (I call bull that they wouldn't have already had one, clearly the writers have never worked in or consulted a real business) and now the face of deception. Barf. They brought her one as a homophobic stage jailer and suddenly now she is all up in the business at deception... not even a middle schooler would write a story with this many holes.
Best... Funeral... EVER!
After this, Sonny and Ric's daughters won't get along any better than their fathers do!
I am SO on Team Molly on this one. Kristina gave her (worthless) word to Molly that she would carry TJ's baby FOR her, and assured her that she would happily step aside, and give the baby to TJ and Molly to raise. It was the kind of "Grand Gesture" Krissy enjoys, because it made HER the center of attention (instead of her more accomplished, younger sister), and she got to hear everybody gushing over what a wonderful person she is, to do such a marvelous thing for her sister.
Well, so much for THAT!
"Love" isn't the only word Kristina doesn't completely understand. "Honor," "Integrity," "Selflessness," and "Sacrifice," are a few more words that aren't in Kristina's vocabulary. Clearly, she doesn't give a damn about Molly; she also hasn't shown the slightest bit of empathy towards TJ, the baby's father, and in fact, she apparently hasn't even thought about him at all, throughout this whole ordeal. She's probably punishing him for worrying that something exactly like this would happen if they allowed her to get involved.
I was happy that Molly called Alexis out, for her part in all this. If she had slammed on the brakes, and corrected Kristina every time she said "MY Baby," and refused to allow her to even seriously consider taking Molly and TJ to court in a custody battle, maybe things wouldn't have gotten so out of hand. Or, she could've told Molly what her sister was planning, instead of hiding the truth, and hoping it would all go away after the baby was born. A supposedly smart lawyer like Alexis should've known that DENIAL is NOT a recommended parental, conflict resolution strategy!
The funeral, this whole week, and really going back to Kristina's confrontation with Ava, demonstrated why everyone who had reservations about Krissy not only acting as Molly and TJ's surrogate, but ALSO donating the egg, were justified. She has certainly lived down to their lowest expectations. They were concerned that Kristina - who had never experienced pregnancy or childbirth - would make this all about herself, behave in a reckless, or irresponsible manner, and they worried that in the end, she would be unwilling to part with the baby. You can check ALL those boxes!
It started with all the "MY baby" stuff, and went downhill from there. When she saw that TJ and Molly were having an uncharacteristic disagreement (over HER, naturally), she immediately started operating on the assumption that they were going to break up BEFORE the baby was born, and started making plans to legally assert her rights as the baby's biological mother. How she could even contemplate doing such a thing to her own sister, who had already lost one surrogate child, and has never been anything but completely supportive of her, is beyond me!
Kristina's behavior at the funeral service was a microcosm of how her perspective is SO self-centered, she is blind to anyone else's pain and suffering. She really IS Sonny's daughter! It's Kristina's World, and everybody else is just living in it! She expects THEM to understand how she feels, to sympathize with her, and to agree with her that this is all AVA'S fault, and that she (Krissy) bears NO responsibility for Baby Irene's death! Then she has the sheer ARROGANCE to openly address the baby by the name SHE would've chosen - without consulting Molly or TJ, I might add - which was not only disrespectful towards the recognized parents, Molly and TJ, but also to TJ's entire family!
That was the aggressive side of "Passive/Aggressive!" In many cultures, names have mystical power, and if you are able to name someone, it gives you a kind of dominion over them. Just ask Krissy's old cult buddies, "Shiloh" and "Harmony."
A child's funeral is no place for a catfight between two siblings, but I don't blame Molly one bit for calling out her sister on her outrageously selfish, and wildly insensitive behavior.
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@ScrimmageAs usual, I agree with you 100% here.
Sasa
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Thank you for making many of the changes posters recommended, IT team. However, would it be possible to make this window expandable to full screen? It would certainly help with readability. Thank you!
Jane
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Old broad learning new tricks!
Dear Tech Team,
I can see you have made some great improvements to the discussion interface on the new Soapcentral site. However, there are a few things that are still bothering me.
1. This box, where I am typing my comments, is quite narrow on my desktop monitor. Could it be enlarged once we start typing?
2. There is a notification icon on the main Two Scoops article page that shows that people have liked or responded to my comments. It would be great if clicking on one of the notifications took me to that comment.
3. I still get an error message when replying to some, but not all, comments. When I come back to the discussion, the comment is there, but not right after I type it. I'm not the only one getting this error, and it has caused some duplicate entries.
4. Many of us would like to see who is Liking/Disliking our comments, as we can on Facebook and the original Disqus comment interface.
5. When we click on Best/Newest/Oldest, it would be nice to go to the top of the list. I have to scroll to the top to see the most recent, oldest or best comment.
Thanks for making this place nicer!
Kathie
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@JaneI don't know if I'm going to be able to describe this well, but I also miss how the old format would not necessarily show the whole posts. If there was a long post, it would show about a paragraph, then there would be a bar you could click on if you wanted to see the rest of the post. It made it faster to scroll through the comments because long ones didn't take up a lot of space. But you could still read them if you wanted to.
LkyLdy.
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Good point. The posts that are long are all there, not just a blurb to click on for more. Would love that back. Some people are posting every sentence as one post. I’ve always loved this site, but do not have hours to trek through the new version. I work and just got married 3 weeks ago…… but General Hospital is my baby.
LkyLdy.
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@JaneThese are great comments and @kathie says we used to just see a blurb of a long comment and then could click on to see more. It seems endless now to scroll through this plus you have people making 30 posts of one sentence each. I have always loved this site and enjoyed many of your comments for years, but just don’t have time to scroll thru 150 comments everytime there’s a new one. I work and just got married 3 weeks ago….. but General Hospital is my baby!
Jane
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Old broad learning new tricks!
@LkyLdy.I think the person posting one comment at a time is using their phone and are having refreshing problems after a long post and losing everything they just typed. They posted the comments in one post last week, but were unable to this week because of that refreshing glitch.
Ruthie
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@LkyLdy.congratulations and best wishes for your new marriage!
Kathie
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@LkyLdy.Congratulations on your marriage! May it have absolutely no resemblance to a soap opera marriage! Except for the lovely wedding of course
Brittany
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I hope GH never does a surrogate storyline with main characters again. With Liz being a surrogate for Courtney and Jax - all that did was make everyone involved look bad. And now looking back, that might have been the beginning of the end of Liz and Lucky before Lucky's delusions about Patrick Drake and the pills. With Maxie doing it for Lulu and Dante - Maxie really had the best of intentions but she unnecessarily lied about having a miscarriage and it all just spiraled. And even though Spinelli annoys me and he and Maxie are together now, I will never fault him if a part of him will never forgive Maxie for lying. That storyline also lasted forever, it was pretty much all of 2013. Now with Kristina- literally everybody knew this was going to be a disaster. I'm shocked the writers didn't pivot immediately when they saw most viewers didn't want to see this.
I might be in the minority but I don't want to see Lulu and Dante or Liz and Lucky get back together. I didn't care about Lante when JMB was Lulu, and felt nothing for them when ER took over the role. And that's no disrespect to any of the actors involved but I could just never get behind that pairing. I love Sam and Dante together and everything about their relationship seems so grownup and genuine. As for Liz and Lucky, to me that relationship died when Lucky "died" in that fire. Every iteration of their repairing has been a complete disaster. And IMHO Liz and Lucky should have been over forever when he was sleeping with Sarah.
Cathy Bell
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How can anybody be team Smirky? I don't like the actress who portrays Kristina, she is either hysterical, angry or has a smirk on her face. I did not like how superficial her fling with Blaze was But I especially hate that she would plan to keep the baby she convinced her sister in letting her carry for her as a surrogate. That was a cruel and horrible thing to do and anyone who sides with her is cruel and horrible to including Alexis who so clearly favors the pathetic and immature Kristina over Milly.
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I've never been a surrogate so I absolutely don't know what I'm talking about, but - it seems to me the first thing to qualify as a surrogate is acknowledge from day one that you are NOT the baby's mother - yes, I have had a child, so I'm not saying it's an easy prospect, but that's why everyone isn't cut out to be a surrogate. In this case, Kristina needed to focus on the fact that she would ALWAYS be the baby's aunt. She sold herself to Molly and TJ with that notion. She convinced them they had nothing to worry about if she became the surrogate - that she ONLY had their needs in mind. Yes, Molly and TJ took a huge risk given Kristina's history, but they chose to believe her - why wouldn't they? They were so desperate and she was so convincing. But then, she started looking for excuses to keep the baby - even going so far as to claim Molly and TJ were on the verge of breaking up, which they never were. Kristina basically pulled a bait and switch on them, blindsiding them. And with everyone fawning over Kristina (not without reason), but at the same time NOT really giving Molly HER due, it's no wonder she snapped and laid into Kristina - especially after finding the documents in her mother's briefcase (why Alexis hadn't destroyed those, I'll never understand). No - it was never Kristina's baby, not the way she sold the surrogacy to her sister. She is the one who couldn't be disciplined enough to remind herself why she was having the baby in the first place. She began by saying it was out of love and support for Molly - so where did that love and support go? I don't blame Kristina for the accident, but I sure don't feel like Molly is being given a fair shake. Kristina has always made poor choices and everyone has rushed to save her, where Molly has lived a steady life, just wanted to be a mother, and can't even get her own "Davis girls" to support her properly. I would have flipped out, too.
@mhanbeyThe biggest issue was using Kristina's egg. If they had just waited for a donor egg, I think it would have been a little easier for Kristina to focus on the baby being Molly's and not her own. She would still be attached to the baby but it would have been a little clearer. Kristina should also have been in therapy from conception to focus on the process and the intended end result - a baby for Molly and TJ. But where would the drama be in that?
Kathie
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GH might not be doing very well with couples right now, but they seem to be doing the other thing that gets audiences’ attention—creating situations where everyone takes a side. There was a lot of that this week, low key and major blowups.
I found the debates interesting this week, but I have to say, I actually don’t want to pick sides. Everyone seems to have a point. Trina and Jason were right, Joss and Anna are in no position to question who they show loyalty to. But how does Trina justify Ava’s actions? And for the sake of his sons and himself, Jason SHOULD rethink being Sonny’s right hand man.
Kristina is (was?) really wrong to think about going back on her promise to give Molly and TJ her baby. But if Molly’s going to get mad, she should focus on THAT. Not these tirades about Kristina getting the baby killed. I guess Ava is dangerous, but it’s a stretch to think Kristina could have foreseen falling through a window. There are a dozen other ways Kristina could have had an accident; if she was walking through a crosswalk and got hit by a car, would that have been her fault because she didn’t stay at home for 9 months?
Then there’s Sonny, Jagger and Ava. Ugh. I guess if I have to, I’ll hold my nose and root for Sonny.
Henry James
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I agree with you about the Trina/Joss and Jason/Anna conversations, I also agree that Jason should see this as an opportunity to remove or reduce his association with the organization (that sounded even more ridiculous out loud), but I don't think Molly was saying that Kristina should have foreseen falling 3 stories, but she didn't put her health and thus the health of the unborn child as her number one priority. Sure she could have had an accident anywhere, but the point was she increased her chances of bad things happening by choosing to confront Ava, even if she didn't fall, her BP could have spiked due to the confrontation and that just was not a consideration to her. She wasn't skydiving, but she wasn't doing everything in her power to not cause stress to the pregnancy. What did she reasonably expect to happen with Ava? She wasn't going to change her position because Kristina was going to intimidate her or out logic her, there was not a real reason for debate. Did she not think Diane or Sonny would have brought up either of those issues with Kate and Morgan, she just wasn't thinking.
Kathie
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This is what I mean—everyone has an opinion. I’m not feeling compelled to be either team Molly or Kristina though.
Incidentally—and another poster mentioned this last week—if you’re blaming Kristina for the baby’s death, it’s inherent that Ava also shares responsibility. If just the act of going to Ava’s hotel room is inherently dangerous, isn’t that partly Ava’s fault? And Ava was the one who gave Kristina a reason to go there by subpoenaing her—which was not a legal truth finding strategy, it was designed to get a reaction out of unmedicated Sonny. Ava let Kristina in. She engaged with her and grabbed her when Kristina said something she didn’t like (NOT because she felt threatened by a 5 foot tall pregnant woman). It’s unclear to me where Molly, TJ and the Ashfords now stand on Ava’s responsibility. They do not know exactly what happened in the hotel room so may be buying Ava’s story that Kristina threatened her. Which the viewers know is not true. And really, if she thinks about it, so should Molly. The Ashfords less so because they don’t really know Kristina.
I lean towards thinking neither Kristina nor Ava is responsible for the baby’s death, that it was an accident. I do think Ava bears just a bit of moral responsibility as her playing games with Sonny and Kristina led up to the tragedy, but she certainly didn’t intend to harm Kristina or the baby. What I don’t like about her (and I’ll admit, I don’t really like Ava in general except for entertainment value) is that she’s lying constantly and refuses to take ANY responsibility for what happened. She’s not happy with the way things are going right now of course, but I don’t think there’s any guilt involved. Just self preservation.
Ruthie
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And of course, it all goes back to Sonny, who suddenly decided to sue Ava for full sole custody of Avery and that naturally upset a lot. I don''t get why this inciting event is always ignored. It's Sonny's fault K lost the baby.
Kathie
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Technically, Ava sued for custody. Sonny has full custody so does not need to sue for it. I'm unclear whether Ava's visitation is at Sonny's discretion or if they have it laid out legally. If it's the latter, then I don't see how Sonny could have threatened to not let Ava see Avery.
I will concede that Sonny threatened to cut Ava off which was an overreaction to the things he was mad at her for (but not necessarily for the drug switching that he did not know about). Sonny was paranoid and volatile and cutting everyone out of his life though, apparently due to being undermedicated. So you can blame his reaction on Valentine and Ava.
Anyone else think it's odd we never see Avery or her reaction to any of this? She's 10 years old, you have to give some sort of explanation if you're all of a sudden going to not let her see one parent or the other. How did that go? This kid has been through a lot of back and forth in the last several years, does she just accept it without question? Or are we headed for a major teenage rebellion?
Ruthie
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Ava sued Sonny for custody AFTER he sued her for the same thing. He started the whole craziness.
amcghlover
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Kristina was horrible this week, acting like Iran's mother, even calling her Adelaide at the grave. Alexis was no better, gaining over Kristina as if her pain is more important and expecting Molly to keep quiet. Alexis had plenty of opportunities to talk to Friday about the "my baby" thing.
Amcghlover
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Gah! Autocorrect! I dnt have an edit option on my fire tablet. Do I need to sign up??
JBJ
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@JaneI don't even get the option to login...
Jane
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Old broad learning new tricks!
Are you on a desktop computer? If so, there is a Login for the SOC site at the top, right side of the main screen.
Kathie
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Does anyone else think that maybe the writers made Scott disappear so Ric would offer his legal services to Ava?
I’ve been skeptical of the speculation Ava is being written out of the show (the character and actress are too popular), but I can understand why people are wondering. Aside from the corner she seems to have been written into, what are they going to do with her once Ava gets out of it? Remember how she was on a back burner storyline with Austin before this? And here comes Ric who’s about the right age to pair her up with…
I could be totally wrong of course.
JDF
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Didn't Lucy say that she was on the phone with Scott when they were at Home & Heart?
k.lasota
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I think so, but I honestly tuned her out.
Kathie
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Yes, but Scott has not been returning Ava's calls. The mess she's in, she cannot be without a lawyer.
CeeGee
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Tamilu, I adore both you and Liz and your writing and perspective, and eagerly await your columns each week! I agree with all your observations this week (so happy to see Brad and would love to see him get another chance not only at GH but in love!) -- EXCEPT for your view on Molly.
Can you imagine the shock of seeing that paperwork on the day of your baby's funeral that confirmed every single terrifying fear you ever had about what your surrogate might do? Let alone the sister who insisted to the point of emotional blackmail ("if you don't believe me and let me carry your baby you clearly don't love or trust me and are a terrible person"that she be the one to be not only the surrogate but the egg donor?
And then have everyone but your dad and TJ's family completely ignore you and TJ at the funeral while acting like Kristina's grief was the only legitimate grief in the room? Me, me, my, my, I, I are, true to form, Kristina's favorite words.
Molly finally cracked under the combination of lifelong indulgence by everyone, including herself, of Kristina's utter narcissistic behavior (she is indeed her father's daughter) coupled with the devastating grief of losing a second child and fresh shock of Kristina's secret and premeditated intended betrayal. Yes, it was heart-wrenching to see the shattering of these sisters' relationship but I'm proud of Molly for refusing to just be a doormat any more.
And yes, I agree that both actresses did an amazing job!
Jane
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Old broad learning new tricks!
I'm with you on the story of the two sisters. My sympathies are with Molly (and TJ to a lesser extent because he was such a whiny brat about things for so long that I lost my sympathy for him, but yes, even for TJ). I feel bad for Kristina, but I am appalled at her trying to renege on her surrogacy arrangement, and by her lack of empathy for her younger sister.
Paige
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This whole thing was a disaster from the start. It was a stupid decision on the part of Molly and TJ to have a relative, especially such close one (especially Kristina!), be their surrogate. Kristina, never for one second, thought of Molly as the mother-to-be.
Ruthie
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Wonderful analysis. I totally agree. Kristina is so immature and morally empty that she would go back on her commitment. Of course Molly is so angry. Molly feels totally betrayed and lied to. I can understand Kristina's feelings of grief, but she made this decision while she was pregnant. How dare she? I think Kristina is headed into a big postpartum depression or psychosis storyline.
JDF
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I think we all knew that this pregnancy was doomed. They made it much too complicated. The odds always favored a story of the first surrogate lying about her miscarriage and Molly and TJ eventually discovering such. This way they can make that discovery a year from now or two years from now and introduce a SORASED child of whatever age they choose, much like they did with Violet who was somehow three years old when Hayden gave birth.
Millow fan
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While I empathize with Kristina, she created this mess, pushing her sister Molly and Tj into it. Molly also held back until Kristina made the entire funeral about herself. Glad she had the paperwork….great showdown and Tj was supportive as ever. Finally seeing their couple chem!
Also, Willow shoud, be grateful to Micahel and maybe this time he’ll finally get to share his feelings about how every dumb idea Willow has he supports, when she clearly is delusional. Dreaming of icky Drew? Nope. If they sleep together I’m out, but if Willow wakes up to realize her amazing kind helpful husband deserves better- good. Nina started this and it’s up to her to protect her daughter and end up it- tell Michael and let him take his revenge, Aurora and ELQ- Eillow may have to crawl back after this one, but I do love Millow still
LkyLdy.
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I don’t care about Lois or her accent. NO offense to anyone from Brooklyn, but I find NOT her accent, but just Lois grating, as she’s over the top and I personally (so don’t get mad at me) feel that her nails are distracting, hideous & tacky.
LkyLdy.
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Team Molly. Sorry Tamilu & Everyone, but Kris is a selfish brat who literally didn’t want to tell the truth about her mobster father and that’s why she went to Ava’s. Was it a horrible accident? YES, but did Kris think that Ava would just say - “okay, sure”? In what world is telling the truth about Sonny beating Dex worse than Sonny actually beating Dex? Team Molly for me after the funeral. Molly was reeling from finding the paperwork that Kris had drawn up. Kris had no rational moral right to go back on her word about custody, but of course EVERYONE knew this would happen.
As much as people seemed to hate this story knowing it would end bad, I did not expect to have to sit through a baby’s funeral. It was awful, really heart wrenching, but the acting was amazing.
littlehollywoodmt
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@JaneAlso team Molly here. Kristina begged Molly and TJ to let her be the surrogate for them and guilted them when they questioned that she would be able to give up "her" baby. She did EXACTLY what everyone thought she would - and did it with TJ's baby. Lets not forget this was not some random donor sperm here. She was seeking full custody of the baby that was TJs. She is the monster here, not Molly. And Molly snapping after just finding out that not only was Kristina going to double cross her and TJ but that it seemed like her mother was complicit in the action, while watching Kristina do at the funeral what she always seems to do, make it all about herself. Molly was feeling her grief over the loss of her chance to be a mother as well as her betrayal from her mother and sister. I would say the circumstance had her behavior justified. She spend the whole pregnancy telling TJ to trust Kristina, to back off her, to second guessing herself when Kristina exhibited questionable choices and listening to Alexis say to stand down and trust her sister, just to find out that her sister betrayed her.
@LkyLdy.Kristina would have been way better off just showing up in response to the subpoena and telling the truth about BOTH of Avery's parents and let the court sort it out. No need to go to Ava and say "sure, I'll tell the truth about my dad and THEN I'm going to tell all about you!" She should have just done it, not gone to tell Ava what she would do. smh
Guest
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Willow should be all over that amazing husband of hers, they mourned over Jonah together and called their sons brothers. Michael has always and only out her needs ahead of his own, over and over and this is how she repays him?? Having Willow dream of Drew is insulting and regressive for a character who overcame so much, only for Nina to drag her down
Kim LaSota
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Sorry. I agree that Michael has been a pretty good husband. But this Willow/ Drew fiasco is NOT Nina dragging her down. Nina, foolishly, thinks she's protecting Willow.
Jane
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Old broad learning new tricks!
I agree that having Willow dream of Drew is insulting and regressive to her character development, but Nina had nothing to do with that. Nina is trying to get her long-lost daughter to stop with her fantasies of her uncle-in-law and has done nothing to drag Willow down.
Kim LaSota
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I really missed Tamilu and Liz, as well as many posters, so I thought I'd give it another go. I really don't like this new format!
A few comments:
Although Sonny and Ric had the same mother, she chose to keep Sonny with her and send Ric away with his father. Regardless of her "reasons", she chose one child to have in her life. Absolutely ridiculous to think Molly's child should be named after her.
Kristina and Molly had just reconciled over the "Parental Rights" agreement. They were not at odds with each other when the tragedy occurred.
Molly was blindsided by finding the documents Kristina was filing for custody of the baby, as well as being shocked by the appearance that Alexis was complicit in the effort. This was only hours before the funeral. Kristina's jumping up to speak at the funeral, and then quietly calling Molly and TJs infant by a different name, became that tiny little straw that broke her. Having her mother and Sam hanging all over Kristina, and barely offering any comfort to her during the funeral, couldn't have helped. 💔 Although the timing was bad, she was more than justified in her comment. Kristina had practically begged to carry a child for her, so this was an unforgivable betrayal.
As for Kristina, she has just gone through a major trauma and, yes, she needs care. But at some point, everyone needs to face the hard truth that she chose to go to Ava's suite, after everyone including Sonny had told her not to worry about the subpoena. And if she clearly knew Ava was capable of killing Connie and playing with Morgan's meds, then she should have also known that confronting and antagonizing her with that was a foolish risk to take. It was, clearly, an accident...but one that could have easily been avoided. Harsh, but true.
CeeGee
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could not agree more!
Kathie
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Trevor Lansing was a scumbag, but I'm not sure Ric didn't get the better part of that deal. Sonny's step-father beat him and locked him in a closet on a regular basis.
Does anyone remember Alexis's mother's name? I'm drawing a blank. Kristin?
Amcghlover
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Kiersten???
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I'm glad you're back, and evidently so is everyone else! You win the "upvotes" this week!
Woo Hoo!
I really think they should do away with the "down votes".
It's just not nice.
And this is supposed to be FUN.
(Same on You Tube, they should do away with "Down Votes".)
But that's just my opinion.
littlehollywoodmt
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You took the words right out of my mouth!!! I completely agree!
Kathie
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@MissezPremiseI agree about downvotes. I tend to see them pop up in weird ways--like statements of fact (the website is slow today for example) that it doesn't make sense to disagree with.
I have to admit I 'm probably missing the purpose though. Thumbs up I understand--it's a way of saying, I agree without having to actually type something. I mean, do we really want 20 posts saying I agree? If I disagree, I might debate the points. Or move on without comment. But this is an opinion page, no one is wrong so I don't get what the point of thumbs down is. If something is blatantly offensive or inappropriate, there are ways to report that right? Which I fortunately do not see much of on this site where people are nice.
WideAwake
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Kirsten Bergman
MissezPremise
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@MissezPremiseso of course somebody had to downvote this comment. What are we in 8th grade here? Mean Girls everywhere. And guys. And here I thought we were all adults.
MissezPremise
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as if to prove my point, somebody downvoted my comment. What are we in 8th grade here?
yes, Kristen is correct. I believe she was an opera star.
FleurdeLisa
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It was an accident. if she was wrong for going to Ava's then she was wrong for even getting out of bed that morning. She shouldn't have even opened the door to Molly because Maxie lost Lulu and Dante's baby when she heard something at the door, opened it, and a dog knocked her over. Other than that, I agree 100%.
WideAwake
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Objective, unbiased, well spoken assesssment of both Molly and Kristina! 👏🏼👏🏼
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@JaneThey downvoted my comment on Kim's comment.
I know, it's stupid.
I was saying how they should do away with downvotes because it's mean. So somebody downvoted it.
::SMH::
Kristin Bergman. Then Alexis' sister was Kristina and Alexis named her baby with Sonny after her. Alexis' was called Natasha growing up in Mikko and Helena's home
Kathie
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@MelindaBunnyI believe Kristin named her Natasha, but she was called Alexis when growing up with the Cassadines. Alexis was raised to believe she was a family cousin and did not know she was Mikos's daughter. At least that's the way the story was told in the late 90s when her identity was revealed.
Ruthie
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I love that people are nice on this site!
Lesia
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The actor playing Rick looks great with grey hair. Very distinguished.
Jane
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Old broad learning new tricks!
He looks fantastic. I can imagine him as Alan Michael Spaulding on GL, if that show had carried on into this decade.
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Random Thoughts (mine), jotted down during the Week's Viewing.
This week was Rather Dramatic.
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Well it's about time!
Terry!
More Terry!
How about a nice story with Terry and Yuri?
And Brad!!
Okay so he's a Weasel, but Parry Shen is a Good Human.
More Parry!
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Less John NotJagger Jingleheimer Cates! (H/T to Liz Masters! I need to use this as it just cracks me up!)
What a Maroon!
I'm no fan of NotKrissy (at the moment), and I despise Sonny.
But NotJagger Jingleheimer is just a Total D-Bag!
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Violet's Mini-Me Tracy Riding Outfit was Freaking Adorable.
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Smiley Cyrus!!
We were all wondering where you'd gotten to!!
So why doesn't Mayor Laura look Thrilled to see Her Brother?
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Ava and Ninny.
Frenemies again maybe?
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I find myself agreeing with Molly, sort of.
NotKrissy was stupid to confront Ava in front of the Flimsy Metro Court Window!
Not checking the Floor for NotJagger's Catapult Gym Bag?
Totally Krissy.
She practically Launched Herself out that Window!!
Still looking forward to seeing what part Slick Ric will play in all this.
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I like that Judge at NotKrissy's hearing.
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NotJagger Jingelheimer Cates is Truly Unhinged.
Ava should toss HIM out the Window.
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So.
Lulu needs a New Liver.
Or at least part of one.
Is this where Lucky comes in?
Or, perhaps Uncle Smiley is a Match?
Liver? Half from Lucky, Half from Uncle Smiley!
Then, when Lulu FINALLY wakes up, after the Liver Transplant, she'll be Quoting the Bible, and then run off to Ireland to Find Herself.
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Anna to Jason:
"Don't tell Sonny that Valentin had his Meds Tampered With, because Charlotte!"
Jason:
::Stares::
::Immediately runs to Sonny and tells him that Val had his Meds Tampered With::
Nice.
I do have to agree with Anna on one thing.
Jason needs to Dump Sonny.
And Jason is right: Anna is a Hypocrite.
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We all knew TJ and Molly would name the Baby Irene.
Of course, NotKrissy, being the Massive D-Bag the Writers have made her, would object and start with the MyBabyMyBaby Crap.
We also knew this would happen.
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Lindsay Hartley!
She looks nothing like Original Recipe Sam but I like when she's on.
She's like Samantha-Lite.
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Toldja Slic Ric would show up for NuNuNuNuMolly!
I like the Silver Fox Look.
I'm glad he didn't go the "Just for Mob Bosses" Shoe Polish Look route like his Bro, Sonny.
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I'm loving Maxi once again.
Her wardrobe has been quite flattering lately (Was someone "On Set" listening to us? Maybe. Maybe not.)
I thoroughly enjoy any and all dialog between Maxi and Tracy.
Loosely Coe and her Wildly Flapping Hands?
I was so relieved when Scotty called her and she left the room.
Natalia might be redeemed?
We'll see.
Lois' Voice is Annoying AF, but she's got a Great Face and she's good for Infomercials.
Those Green Claws have got to go.
Just, Gross.
And Unsanitary!!!
Yuck.
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Okay, the Baby (Irene Marie)'s Funeral (can we have a break now from these?) was touching and all, but I was SO distracted by the Poorly Placed AstroTurf at the Cemetery.
Props? Didn't Y'All have time to smooth it out before filming?
Are they really using Home Depot Astroturf on Cemetery Plots these days?
No need to plant seeds! Just plop a Rug on the Kid's Grave!
Geez.
Molly has a point.
NotKrissy never should have gone to Ava's.
She should have sent Diane.
Then again, Krissy never has been known for Thinking Things Through.
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Boy, Ava's in a Conundrum.
Should she trust Sonny?
Or go with Not Jagger Jingelheimer Cates?
They're both Dirt Bags, but then again Ava ain't no Mary Poppins herself!
Who's this FBI Broad and why would Sonny know her?
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Dante to Maxi:
"Lulu's been moved to GH!"
Maxi:
"I don't like this! It seems like there's Something Wrong!"
You mean, other than Being in a COMA for the Past Three (and a Half) Years?
What could POSSIBLY be WRONG???
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I'm telling you, Friday's Episode was High Drama.
Especially the "Home and Ninth Circle of Hell" Segment.
I'm so glad Morgan Fairchild put that Rude Snotty Caller in her place.
Even Tracy looked pleased.
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Who else KNEW that was Lucky under that Hood?
Everyone?
Me too.
Jane
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Old broad learning new tricks!
@MissezPremiseI always enjoy your comments, and this week is no different. I totally agree with your comments on the cemetery where they bury everyone. It is such a fake set. Can they just stop with the graveside services?
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@JaneSo of course somebody "Downvoted" me today.
I think the Trolls are back, but with this new format, we can't see who they are.
Jane
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Old broad learning new tricks!
@MissezPremiseI don't understand the point of anonymous Down Votes. If someone disagrees with a comment, why not just say so? Or simply scroll on by. At least we should be able to see who is voting up and down on our comments.
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@JaneI know, they really should do away with them altogether.
It's just allowing folks to be nasty.
This is supposed to be fun!
Instead, I'm like, "What'd I do/say wrong?"
And the Trolls get to be Junior High Mean Girls (or Boyz) again.
Kathie
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@MissezPremiseI don't know why people are downvoting, but there's no reason to worry that you've said anything wrong. I mean this is a forum about a TV show, how many times will there be something to take offense to? And, yes, the internet is full of silly people. Probably the world too, but the anonymity online makes it easier to express it.
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I don't mind the anonymity at all. It's just the "Down" voting that bothers me.
It bothers me on YouTube as well.
Argue away, if you choose. It's more fun that way.
But "Thumbs Down" is just mean.
We're not Siskel and Ebert, after all, although I suppose some folks think they are.
WideAwake
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One of my favorite moments of GH this week was when Jason called out Anna for her hypocrisy. ~ (L-O-N-G overdue!)
cflynnie
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My thoughts on Agent Cates. We had such high hopes for this beloved historical character when he surprised us during a Pikeman takedown with Anna. The writers have turned him into a revenge-seeking angry guy. So nasty, that he arrested a poor woman days after she gave birth via Cesarean section and lost the baby. Man, that is low. All to get Sonny.
So GH writers listen up. Here is how you can redeem our Jaggar instead of doing a "Who killed Jagger Cates" storyline or put him in jail (where we all know FBI agents make so many friends). Instead - have Jagger crumble down on the floor and scream "They will kill him"! Find a bunch of bad Pikeman types or Sonny haters who are holding his kid Stone for Ransome - the Ransome is delivering Sonny to jail or - Have Jaggar reveal he is NOT really Jagger at all. The real Jagger is chained to a wall in some cold holding cell. This guy is either a look-alike - or he can rip off one of the faces made famous by Cesar Faison.
Other than those ideas - Agent Cates is doomed to show up in a pool of blood one morning beside a surprised naked Ava who has no idea what happened when the police or FBI wake her with guns drawn. White sheets with blood all over them sure can make a colorfully messy sight.
Ruthie
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@cflynnieI would not mind at all if Jagger is the murder victim we are expecting. he is a useless and annoying character. At least kill him off and put him to some good use.
Kathie
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@cflynnieI don’t think you have to do anything extreme with Cates. Just have him come to senses. What he really needs is someone who knew him when remind him of the good guy he used to be back in the day. Someone who Stone and Karen idolized. Get through to him that they would both be horrified by his behavior—arresting a women whose baby just died as a means to get to her father!—and it’s a disgrace that he’s doing it all in Karen’s name.
Unfortuantely, I don’t see this happening because TPTB seem to have decided Cates is going to be exactly who he is now. Plus, who can get through to him? Stone and Karen are dead, as are Ruby, Lee and Gail who all knew him at his best. Brenda and Robin are no longer in town, and he probably wouldn’t listen to them anyway because they both love Sonny. Only person around is Lois, and it looks like she’s going to be more concerned with getting a makeover than saving anyone’s soul in the near future.
Kathie
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On the surface of things, I agree and would be happy to have Cates off the canvas.
The thing I don’t like is why did they have to bring back this character who used to be a good guy just to make him a raving, stupid, cruel lunatic? If you want to have someone horrible to go after Sonny, fine, you can create a new character for that. No reason to trash a decent one from the past.
Ryan
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I completely agree.
Jane
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Old broad learning new tricks!
Didn't he have a story with Felicia, who was in disguise as a young punk back in the day? I seem to remember her hanging around the gym when Jagger was boxing.
Kathie
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@JaneI'm sure you're correct I wasn't watching that regularly then.
bella
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I wish they would fix this board so we could see new replies rather than scrolling through to find them.
Kim LaSota
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@bellaThere is an option tab at the top, and I clicked "newest". Seems to be working?
Kim LaSota
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@bellaI miss chatting here, but the site is terrible. See you on the other side ( the dark side compared to here 😆😆
Jane
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Old broad learning new tricks!
It appears to order the posts based on the original comment, not the replies. I have trouble finding replies to posts.
JDF
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This week, Agent Cates seemed to be the one who is bi-polar and off his meds.
Kathie
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Whaddya mean this week? I'd say the last several months.
Humor Me
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Thank you for the column Tamilu - your support of the actresses needed to be in print. These ladies have knocked it out of the park as the two "adult" version of the younger Davis Girls. Emmy reel material abounds. Heck - the show should use that eppy for the Best Show gong!
As for me - I am TeamMolly from the basic principle of Trust. Krissy begged her sister to trust her and give her the chance to do something wondeful for her infertile sibling. And then she blew it to smithereens. Krissy deserved every word and dirty look at the cemetery.
It has been wonderful to see familar faces back. I am still wondering just what TPTB are going to do with them, but hey - this is an upswing from what they did with ME/ BH and that debaucle. I still do not understand the keeping of a such a flawed character who alienated her own daughter and then placed her in a power position at Deception....oh well.
and then there is Ava. I was wondering if the who dun it victim was Ava. Now I am wondering if it will be Cates.
And where is Scotty?
And I am still beggin TPTB to stop with the lust of her husband's uncle farce they have given Willow. That is not who the character is! Does she need to fall off a bridge, or get hit with a falling beam to come to her senses?
I am going to say it - Chase and BLQ need to go. They are the most boring couple on the show when they should be the hot ones. They love each other! But all they do is talk! So send them off to Cherryvale and take Violet with them. We have Sasha and Cody who are funny, real, and falling lin love with each other. They are the best redemption/ recovery story on the show.
and finally - kudo to the actress KS: "you look marvelous darling!" Keep on, keeping on. I hope you feel as good as you look.
mlg
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who is ME/ BH?
cflynnie
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Thank you! Nice to see someone who likes Sasha and Cody. Other than Tamilu - the Scorpio/Jones family (especially Cody) rarely gets mentioned in 2 Scoops. In fact - the two biggest weeks for Cody & Mac - nothing - not one word. 3 paragraphs for Heather (a noncontract character) but none for a storyline that involves a core family that has been on simmer for close to 2 years.
Any way - at this rate, Sasha and Cody may not hit the sheets until November sweeps (hey folks it's not that far away). At least Cody now has a bedroom set. I was wondering where they were going to have sex.
cflynnie
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Both Molly and Kristina did great work this week.
cflynnie
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Duplicate post - something is wrong with your system.
cflynnie
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Sorry for the duplicates - this crazy system kept telling me that it didn't post!
cflynnie
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Thank you!
Duplicate post - please delete
Humor MR
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Micheal Easton / Becky Herbst as Finn/ Liz
JDF
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Finn and Liz are ME & BH
CeeGee
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how I wish they had given Chase and BrookLynn the honeymoon they deserved! And yes, more sexy couple time (for them...and/or let's face it...anyone!)
And I completely agree with the other comment about more emphasis on the Scorpio/Jones/Spinelli storylines!
Paige
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Since BLH & Chase got married, they've rarely been in the same room together1
Please, please, please let it be John Jagger Jingelheimer Cates! So many good suspects - Ava, Sonny, Kristina . . . but it will probably end up being a side character like Clement "The Night Before Christmas" Moore
@cflynnieSAME
Ryan
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John:
This guy is a garbage individual. I was sickened when he tried to get Kristina to come with him to the station even after finding out it was the day of the funeral. I can’t believe he had the gall to say “Oh, the baby that died because you tried to kill Ava”? I can honestly now say that I hate this guy.
Jane
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Old broad learning new tricks!
I tried to reply to this post a few minutes ago, but my reply was detected as spam. I can't remember what was in it that would have triggered a spam detector, but Oh well. I'll try again!
I had a lot of hope for the John/Jagger character when he first come to town. But lately, the writing has ruined the character. I hope it turns out that he is being coerced into his current behavior regarding Kristina, Ava, and Sonny. I would like his (and Ava's) character to be redeemed.
Now I just hope this isn't detected as spam!
AMS
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I always enjoy reading Tamilu's observations. Just a little correction to her comments. Kristina did not suffer a "miscarriage". Miscarriages occur during the first trimester.
Humor Me
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A miscarriage is up to 20 weeks; after that it is called a stillbirth., and that is classified as early, late or term. Krissy's accident resulted in a stillborn baby. (retired nurse here)
Ryan
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Willow: I hope(but doubt) that she tells Michael the truth before she ends up sleeping with drew.
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